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Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.08 03:46:00 - [1] Ok, I am not going to post any pictures or mention isk selling sites or previous GM responses. I am only going to post about the current escalation of spamming. We now have 2-4 isk selling sites competing in the trade and general chat channels. It has gotten so bad that they have bots posting the ad every 30-60 seconds. I blocked about 10 a few nights ago and it only started up again with other brand new charas about an hour later. CCP, this is unacceptable. Please police your trade channels or give op rights to regulars that volunteer and meet a criteria, like you do STAR volunteers in the help channel. This has been going on for months. We the undersigned simply ask that you keep trial accounts out of the public channels that you will not or cannot observe. This action alone would CEASE the isk spamming in chat. Then you can add a filter that removes all Eve Mail that starts with "Dear Friend"...... /signed Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.08 04:02:00 - [2] Originally by: Le Skunk I dont give to ****s about isk spamming in channel tbh. RIGHT CLICK - BLOCK If everyone did this immediatly and without comment or waving their hands in the air and yelping there would be no problem. However, CCP seem to be doding their usual fingers in ear technique which is distressing. SKUNK My block list is getting huge. I only block isk spammers and have hundreds of names in my block list. there has to be a method that CCP could employ to prevent isk spam. Not only is advertising isk for sale a EULA violation, it is dang right annoying with it's increasing frequency. If blocking trial accounts from the channels is not the answer, I sure would like to hear other ideas. The easiest would be to have GM's or volunteers observe the channels. Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.08 10:09:00 - [3] Originally by: Derovius Vaden Like what? Squelch all chat messages that have ISK or SELL in them? Its one thing to say something is broken and suggest an idea to fix it, and completely different then to complain something is broken and expect someone to give you the solution. Obvious attempt to flame. Please don't derail this thread. I did suggest an idea to fix it, please scroll up and read the OP. Have a pleasant day Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.08 11:55:00 - [4] I'm glad to see that others agree that trial accounts don't need access to the trade or public channels. I had suggested this in the Game Development threads some time ago and nothing has ever been done. As for Eve mail that advertises isk, that could easily be taken care of as well. Simply kill any Eve mail that includes a link to a known isk selling site before it even reached the recipient's in box. I see posts or posted pics with the URLs of such sites getting GM sniped in the forums all the time. Why can't something be done in game as well? Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.08 11:58:00 - [5] Originally by: BluOrange Originally by: Ararius Give a select few the ability to give a temp chat ban to people that is reviewed around/at dt. This 'semi-moderator' status sounds like a really good idea. And, as a person who has dealt with Terminus Adacai on a number of occasions, I vote that he be given those rights. Why thank you Blue. Not sure I really want that job though... :) I've avoided the BP trade channel lately as the isk spamming has gotten unbearable lately and I decided that we needed to speak up publicly. Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.08 23:01:00 - [6] Please stay OT with this one. This is not a debate about buying isk. It is a request for CCP to do something about isk spammers. Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.09 22:25:00 - [7] Originally by: Mari Onette Edited by: Mari Onette on 09/07/2007 21:49:20 all you people whining about how CCP should do something should start filing harassment petitions for isk spammers. There are over 100 people in a trade channel at any one time. if 25 of you petition each and every spammer that enters the channel, don't you think it will be dealt with quickly? The fact of the matter is that CCP cannot monitor all channels all the time. IT IS YOUR DUTY AS A POD PILOT TO PETITION SPAMMERS WHO ARE SELLING ISK. GM'S ARE NOT OMNIPRESENT AND IF THEY ARE TO DO THE JOB YOU WANT THEM TO, YOU MUST BE THEIR EYES AND EARS. I have file numerous petitions on isk spammers. I will not discuss the reply that led me to quit petitioning, as it will allow a moderator to lock this thread and that doesn't need to happen. This needs to be out in the open and discussed. Petitioning is not the way to go, just trust me on this. It creates a heavy backlog of petitions and more work for the GM's. We have already offered a simple solution, and some other good ideas are being discussed in here. Please do not discuss petitions and what reply you have gotten back from a GM. Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.09 22:29:00 - [8] I also wanted to point out that the OP had a couple of ideas that would actually lower the GM workload. As has been stated in this thread several times, there is no reason for a trial account to be hitting up trade channels anyhow. If they are a new player with a lot to learn, they have nothing to sell and little isk to buy with. the only trial accounts I see in trade channels ask for handouts or are isk spam bots. Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.10 00:40:00 - [9] Unfortunately, discussing gm replies to petitions in the forum will get a thread locked. There are plenty of isk spamming threads that have already been locked because of it. Anyone that says it is our duty to report spammers, I used to agree with you. I used to do it for every isk spammer that came in trade chat and well, let's just say that this thread is the result of that. I will only say that the last reply I got shocked me. So if it is not to be handled petition, then maybe an open forum is the way to go. Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.10 11:06:00 - [10] I will return to petitioning then. Thanks for the responses. 328 billion isk..... WOW!!!! Nice to hear what is happening on CCP's front regarding this issue. Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.

Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.11 07:27:00 - [11] It looks like some replied before they saw the developers response. This issue has caused a lot of grief on boards an in game. I hope that the GM posts are viewed as constructive. Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.17 04:09:00 - [12] well, I thought I was done with this thread, but tonight it is bad again. They come so fast it is near impossible to carry on a conversation without scrolling. I am currently maxed out at 3 open petitions and cannot report others. I stick by my OP and ask that CCP PLEASE take trial accounts out of the common chat channels. The ISK spammers aren't ruining the game experience, inaction on this matter is. We have been putting up with this for far to damn long. Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.19 17:28:00 - [13] OK, now my isk spammer petitions in exploits (as suggested by a GM in this thread) are going unanswered and left open. I had sent them 3 days ago!!!!! I had to cancel them to make room for a reimbursement petition due to a bugged corp wallet. Nice work CCP, You really do care...... Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.19 21:26:00 - [14] Now they are into implants and anything else they can get their hands on at LP stores. Write a buy order for Standard implant at .01 isk higher then the highest buyer and it will be filled, regardless of price.... Then look at the characters that are selling them to you.... All gibberish names... This game is getting ruined by these guys... I have petitioned a few times numerous 1 day old charas all with bs names 1 day old flying back and forth and depositing soil in one station. It is obvious that that are proxy running a courrier mission of some type and gaining unheard of LP's Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.19 21:29:00 - [15] Again this all goes back to trial account abuse on a large scale... I hate to sound whiney, but we have been complaining about macros and bots for far to long to have them still in the game. Now there is a market bot that will monitor items and under/over cut by .01 isk whenever you write a better buy order or lower sell order. That thread is in market discussions.... Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.24 04:17:00 - [16] Originally by: Jennai I, along with many other people, have stopped using the blueprints channel because there's too much spam. BINGO!!!!!! I used to hang out and chat/sell/buy in the BP channel all the time religiously. I haven't been much because of the damn isk spamming. It has gotten terrible. And the fact that I am limited to the number of open petitions, some that are under Exploits that go unanswered for days, SCREW IT. All they have to do is keep trial accounts out of the Trade channels and problem of isk spamming in chat is 80% beaten. NPC corp chat would be the next hurdle to tackle. Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.26 09:14:00 - [17] MUCH needed bump Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.31 07:05:00 - [18] If your GM's truly wish to eradicate these vermin that have no regard for the game's EULA, why do leave petitions open? I generally get a good response at first, then after 10-15 minutes of reporting new spammer's names, I get no more responses and my petitions lock up. Get these trial accounts out of trade channels!!!!!! Why do you continue to let them ruin your game? One has to begin to wonder what other motives exist...... The BP channel has become useless... as i am sure have others... Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.31 10:09:00 - [19] After hanging out a few hours in the BP channel tonight, I am out of petitions. I petitioned under the rules/exploit as advised by a GM earlier, as it was supposedly getting the most attention. At first, i got quick responses and was able to petition new toon names that spammed isk sales, all less then one day old. Eventually, the GM responses stopped, leaving me unable to report new instances. Trial accounts are not able to train haulers and several other skills to prevent trial account abuse by legitimate players. Why are players that are less then 1 day old allowed to peddle isk in trade channels? I understand that buyers of isk are the problem. But their catalyst is isk spammers. If CCP was to cut off their access to an audience, wouldn't the sellers suffer? Since we began petitioning them so heavily, the number of spammers has dropped in the BP channel, but they still show up, all less then one day old. Why does a character with less then 24 hours in game need access to trade channels? Maybe i am just being naive and am missing something. Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.08.02 10:13:00 - [20] Dear GM Nova, As you asked on page 3 of this thread, I have been petitioning isk spammers. I have to tell you, either your fellow GM's could care less about isk spamming petitions or you guys are not communicating priorities. I just deleted 2 open partitions in rules/exploits (as requested) because they were open for more then 48 hours and i needed to petition a character seller in a trade channel. I am going to go out on a limb here, and suggest that these petitions are being left open for a reason.... to block additional petitions on other spammer characters because isk macros and spammers are not your top priority. If macro accounts and their cohorts are not a priority, one has to second guess why not. Could it be that at any given time, 30-50% of your active pilots are macro miners and mission runners? That macro miners generate income for CCP with paid accounts numbering in the thousands? Your inaction on this will ruin your game. Enjoy your Yen while you can get it. We as active playing members have been asking for action on this for a long time and your actions are half hearted and meant to appease us, not resolve the issue. Mineral prices continue to spiral down as the number of macro miners and their spammers increase. Soon you will have a macro:player ratio of 3:1 if you do not take serious, immediate action. The longer this is allowed to continue, the more players that will become disenfranchised and leave the game, or go inactive until it is remedied. As suggested earlier, if you cut off the advertising in game for isk sales, you cut off their ability to mine and sell minerals/isk. This will reduce their incentive to infect this game. This is one of the BEST MMO's I have ever played, but it is going down the toilet quickly. Our dead end system used to have 7-8 pilots at any given time about a year ago. Now, it has about 16-20, mostly gibberish names that eat away at belts 23/7 and are members of the same 2-3 NPC corps. They mine non stop 7 days a week. Your GTC program allows these "entrepreneurs" to avoid monetary costs to farm and mission at no currency costs to them. Large alliances and corps that are willing to spend real currency to further their game play fuel these macro accounts. It is a vicious cycle that will feed upon itself until you have lost your core players. Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.

Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.08.03 17:04:00 - [21] Official response is on page 3 of this thread. I have quit petitioning isk spammers because my petitions stay open for days now, even though they are sent under the express category. My guess is GM's are just as tired of these isk sellers as we are. Keep trial accounts out of trade channels.... Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.08.07 02:19:00 - [22] Please keep this thread on topic and do not mention specific regions as causing the trouble. Also petition responses should be kept out of here as well. We want this thread to survive until something is done. To the poster that stated that taking trial accounts out of trade channels would not be fair and would limit their ability to get a feel for the game, we also have certain skills that trials cannot train to prevent trial abuse. Isk spammers using trial accounts as throw away spam accounts are abuse. Removing this will not hinder a true trial account, as the tutorial and missions will keep them plenty busy for the first 14 days. Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.08.21 04:33:00 - [23] well, much time later and nothing done by CCP. I am done petitioning your EULA breakers. To the one that said this was a whine thread, try using the damn trade channels and then add your .01 isk..... Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.

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